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Diolch yn fawr iawn, a dyna'r pwynt, ynde, ein bod ni'n gyfrifol am y gwasanaethau ar ôl iddyn nhw adael y carchar.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, and that's the point, isn't it, that we are responsible for the services once they've left prison.
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A report published by the Welsh Governance Centre found that more than a third of people who died after leaving prison in Wales last year died as a result of drug-related causes. The report also found that nearly 700 people were released into rough sleeping in Wales, and that number has now risen for four years in a row. These are people who have served their sentences and should have the chance to get their lives back on track, but, instead, too many are leaving prison with no stable home, no proper support and nowhere to turn to. The report itself also directly questions whether the Welsh Government support for people with substance use problems and for those leaving custody is really fit for purpose. Whilst, obviously, as you've said, we continue to push for the devolution of justice, the Welsh Government already has the powers over those services. So, Deputy First Minister, this is the key question: what action will you take now to ensure that nobody leaves prison in Wales with nowhere to live and nowhere to turn to for treatment? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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I support what Joe said about the tethering of horses and, obviously, I'm going to support what Mike said as well. I'm not going to ask about greyhounds—I think you've had enough of me that. But you mentioned, in your response to Joe, about the animal health and welfare plan, and it's really just trying to see if we can pin you down on a timetable for the delivery of that. We know that charities, such as RSPCA Cymru and Hope Rescue, are keen to see the progress on this. They have, particularly Hope Rescue, they're caring—and this is an increasing number—they currently care for nearly 800 dogs and are facing mounting financial pressures. We know that the plan, we hope, will include the regulation of animal welfare establishments, and the promotion of responsible pet ownership and breeding. So, therefore, could I ask you, if possible, could you please confirm a timetable when we will see this published? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Diolch yn fawr iawn. Prynhawn da eto, Weinidog. Diolch am aros ar gyfer hyn.
Official English translation
Thank you very much, and good afternoon again, Cabinet Minister. Thank you for waiting for this.
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1. A wnaiff y Gweinidog Cabinet ddatganiad ar berfformiad Dŵr Cymru yn dilyn adroddiad perfformiad gweithredol diweddaraf Ofwat? TQ1513
Official English translation
1. Will the Cabinet Minister make a statement on the performance of Dŵr Cymru following Ofwat's latest operational performance report? TQ1513
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Diolch am yr ymateb.
Official English translation
Thank you for that response.
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Diolch am yr ymateb.
Official English translation
Thank you for that response.
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We know Ofwat's report is so clear. Dŵr Cymru was the worst performer in England and Wales for external sewer flooding. This past month, we've seen report after report that has continued to damn them. For example, Surfers Against Sewage reported more than 100,000 sewage discharges across Welsh waters last year, lasting a combined 94 days. Yet customers are being asked to pay more to Dŵr Cymru. The average household bill has risen by £180, or 36 per cent, in the last two years. So, while our rivers are fouled and bills soar, what do we see at the top of Dŵr Cymru? Well, the new chief executive of Dŵr Cymru, Roch Cheroux, says that customers face a choice: you pay higher bills, or wait longer for the infrastructure upgrades that Dŵr Cymru needs. At the same time, let's just remind ourselves of the salary that he receives. He receives £460,000 a year alongside a potential bonus of £621,000 a year, which gives a total package of nearly £1 million. He has the highest paid job in Welsh public life. I think that this is absolutely ludicrous, and so would many Welsh Water bill payers, such as us, probably, in this Siambr. A company already fined for breaking its permits has no business asking families to, what is in effect, subsidise its chief executive's pay. That is a gross injustice, and people all over Wales know it, from the Usk to the Tawe and other rivers in Wales. They can see what the gross injustice is. So, I'd like to ask you, and we've raised this on a number of occasions here in the Siambr, and I know that you've heard this both in opposition and as a Government Minister. We're being asked to pay higher bills, and yet the chief executive is receiving higher pay. He should pay for these upgrades. Dŵr Cymru should pay for these upgrades. Can you assure us that the new chief executive will receive no bonus, that you will press for a review of his salary, and that these bills will not increase for us in order to fund these upgrades? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Prynhawn da, Drefnydd. I'd like to request two statements, if I may. One is on the provision of speech and language therapy in our youth justice services. Three years ago, the Senedd's Equality and Social Justice Committee recommended embedding speech and language therapists in every youth offending team in Wales, but at the time the Welsh Labour Government rejected this. So, I'd be pleased to hear how the Plaid Cymru Government will ensure that this funding is in place. Secondly, I'd like to request a statement on British Gas resuming forced pre-payment meter installations. British Gas made £56 billion in profit, and yet they are going into the houses now. This has now resumed. They are planning to go into houses to install—forcibly—pre-payment meters. I'd like to hear how the Welsh Government is going to protect vulnerable families in Wales. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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And I rise again, with the greatest of respect to the Member, who is persistent and consistent at the very least. But I am perplexed, and I wonder if the Member is listening. No. I am perplexed why the Member keeps raising this issue. So, let's just be clear: GB News is repeatedly embroiled in serious controversies. Last June—[Interruption.] Dirprwy Lywydd, may I carry on in some silence, please? Diolch. Just last week, a GB News presenter apologised in court and agreed to pay substantial damages to a UK politician. Meanwhile, Ofcom is investigating the channel. Ofcom is investigating the channel following more than 12,000 complaints about a guest—
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I have, I have. But, Dirprwy Lywydd, I've been interrupted, so I'm coming to that, thank you. Twelve thousand complaints about a guest appearing to associate Pride, the organisation, with child sexual exploitation and bestiality. And once again, we are here about GB News.
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My question to the Llywydd is: will the Llywydd agree that broadcasting GB News would be at odds with the principles of respect, dignity and integrity that should underpin the Senedd? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Diolch yn fawr. I'll be very brief. Would you not agree with this: that actually Reform UK's recent debates, including this one, are designed to divide and are designed to bring fear—[Interruption.]—to bring fear to our communities? And on this day, where you started, we should be in unity together. Would you not agree that this is shameful by Reform UK?
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Diolch yn fawr iawn am yr ymateb, Brif Weinidog.
Official English translation
Thank you for that response, First Minister.
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We've found on at least five occasions that you've described Betsi Cadwaladr as too large, too unwieldy and too distant from the people it serves. That was when you were the spokesperson for health for Plaid Cymru in opposition. And on 2 October this year, as Prif Weinidog, you said you were essentially in the same place as when you were a health spokesperson. You said we were in the last chance saloon with Betsi Cadwaladr, and that Wales must be ready to break up Betsi, which can only mean that, in your view, it's too large. Yet in recent weeks, Plaid Cymru Members have suggested that the answer to bed closures in Powys is to merge Powys Teaching Health Board with Hywel Dda University Health Board or even with Betsi Cadwaladr. That idea was nowhere in your manifesto, so I'm seeking to put on record that this is not something that Plaid Cymru are intending to do. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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3. Pa asesiad y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi'i wneud o ddigonolrwydd pwerau cyfreithiol Gweinidogion Cymru i ymyrryd mewn gwasanaethau cyhoeddus datganoledig? OQ64735
Official English translation
3. What assessment has the Counsel General made of the adequacy of Welsh Ministers’ legal powers to intervene in devolved public services? OQ64735
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Diolch yn fawr iawn am yr ymateb.
Official English translation
Thank you very much for that repsonse.
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You very kindly responded to my questions on this issue before, but what I'm really specifically asking about is what powers the Welsh Government should have in order to intervene in health boards when there is a real challenge to the services that are being delivered. In England, the Secretary of State, since January 2024, has been able to call in NHS service changes and decide on them. In Scotland, major service changes require ministerial approval. Even in Wales, Ministers appointed commissioners to take over the South Wales Fire and Rescue Service, and can direct or challenge school closures. Yet, in Powys, families are simply being asked to accept community beds closing and care moving further from home, and the Government says it cannot weigh in and look at the merits of this decision. Cwnsler Cyffredinol, what advice would you give the Welsh Government on how Wales can gain those powers—the powers that England and Scotland have? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Prynhawn da, Drefnydd. I'd like two statements, please. Last week I met coracle fishermen from west Wales. They were promoting their very, very unique craft. I don't know if you know—they are very small boats, they carry them on their back, and they only fish at night between Monday and Friday. However, the period of them being able to fish has been massively reduced by Natural Resources Wales. So, could I just ask what the Government is going to be doing in order to protect this important Welsh tradition? The other statement is with regard to job opportunities for physiotherapy graduates. We're in this terrible place where we've trained physiotherapists and we can't give them jobs, and yet we are crying out for people to have the service of a physiotherapist. So, please, could you tell us what the Government's intentions are to ensure that physiotherapists get the jobs that they need to be able to deliver the services to the people of Wales? Diolch yn fawr iawn, Lywydd.
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I associate myself with all of the remarks made, and on behalf of the Welsh Liberal Democrats, I pay honour to those who have died, those who have lost members of their family and have been affected and continue to be affected. I was honoured this morning to attend the performance of The Silent Volunteer. It was a very moving performance, and one thing that struck me was the replication of the sound of the thundering slurry rushing down the hillside towards the school. It brought home the terrifying reality of that day, after a week of rain, and the devastation suffered by the community. At the end of the performance, one word stood out for me, which was 'undod'—unity. That was on a banner that the performers held up. And as politicians, we have a responsibility to come together, as we have done this afternoon, to listen to communities and to learn from the past. We must honour those who died, not only through remembrance, but through our actions going forward. Diolch.
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Prynhawn da, Drefnydd. I want a statement, please, on the services for women, in particular in rural areas, when they face domestic violence. Last week, two cases in Wales were in our media. In Carmarthen, James McKenna was jailed for 24 years for the attempted murder of his ex-partner, whom he stalked and stabbed repeatedly as she walked her dog. And secondly, there's the really tragic case in Prestatyn, of mother of four Samantha Phythian, who was pregnant and found dead in a burning van. All of these cases, along with the cases of women who are living in rural areas that I represent, show how hard it is for those women to get the services and the responses they need. Could you please give us an update and a statement, and perhaps from the Minister as well, on services for women who face domestic violence and what you're doing to develop these and ensure that they reach everybody? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Thank you very much for your statement, Minister, and I note this follows a statement you made on 1 July, when temperatures were slightly warmer than they are now. I'm very pleased as well that, in your statement, you refer to those vulnerable groups, particularly people who are homeless. And I just really wanted to just focus on this, because for those people who are homeless in winter, it literally is about getting a home. That will save their lives. Crisis in Wales reported, this month, that 63 people died on the streets in 2025 in Wales. The average age of a woman dying, who is homeless, was 43, and 47 for men. Crisis says it's preparing for a busy winter. They want the UK Government to unfreeze the housing benefit, but it does call on the Welsh Government to enact the new Homelessness and Social Housing Allocation (Wales) Act 2026. So, what will you be doing to work across the Government, but also to support those third sector organisations, such as Crisis, to get homeless people literally off our streets this winter? Diolch yn fawr iawn, Lywydd.
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Thank you very much to Tom for raising this issue. This is actually the Senedd at its best, when we hear views on something really important for our citizens, but, in this case, really important for our children. I've worked in childcare proceedings over 25 years, under both FDAC in London and non-FDAC courts as well. As you've heard, in England, there are 13 teams working in 18 courts. In Wales, we have none. Rhys ab Owen and I, in the previous Senedd, raised the need for FDACs. We've done this since 2023. And here we are, three years later, with no FDAC in Wales. So, I'm giving a warning, if I may: we do need to hear a plan for how we're going to get FDAC into Wales. There is no doubt about it that FDACs save money, save lives, and give our children the best chance. I want to paint a picture of some of the work that I did as a child protection social worker. We know that the best place for a child is with their parents. But imagine if you were a parent, possibly with a care background, possibly experiencing mental health difficulties, stressed, living in poverty. I've described it as you are trying desperately to get up the escalator that is coming down—you have very little chance. So, you start using drugs and alcohol as a way of forgetting about it and trying to remove yourself from the world you're in. You don't mean to get addicted, but it happens. You have your own children, and you can't look after them. Social services—people like myself—then become involved. As a parent, you fight—of course you do; every single parent wants to keep their child. There is absolutely no doubt, in terms of my 25 years of experience, that that is the case. But you have no resources. You have no services that work with you. Instead, services make you jump through hoops. More stress, more drugs, more alcohol. That's what happens in normal family court proceedings. You do not have the services there ready for you. They are there to try and make you show that you want to keep your child, and that stresses you out even more. Or you go to FDAC, and you have a chance, and, most importantly, your children have a chance. They have the best chance that they can have in life to stay with you. I'll finish by saying the evidence is there. It's indisputable. Family judges that I've worked with—because I did work in the London principal registry—have said it very clearly. I don't know what else the Welsh Government needs to hear. But you need to hear the evidence and you need to act on it, because children cannot wait any longer. Please, just do it. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Would you permit an intervention?
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Thank you so much, Minister, for doing that. I hear exactly what you say, and I can hear that you've got a big plan, which I think is the reasonable interpretation of that. However, I don't hear a clear timetable—maybe you're coming to that at the end. I also really still want to know the answer to why you are not pushing forward on FDAC, given all of the evidence, and that you're actually harming children whilst you wait for your big plan to materialise. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Thank you for taking the intervention and for outlining those two local authorities. There are 21 local authorities in Wales—
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—so could you just tell us what the data is from the others? This Senedd relies on facts and evidence. We had a fantastic debate previously on family drug and alcohol courts, all about the evidence, so please, could you tell us what the evidence is?
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Prynhawn da, Brif Weinidog. Just to come back to Powys and to health services, you'll know that the Powys Teaching Health Board has launched a proposal and a consultation on the future of health services across Powys. These proposals include cuts to hospital beds, which would leave communities like Ystradgynlais with a 23-mile journey to receive in-patient care. In a large rural county with poor public transport, as you will know, that matters enormously to patients, families and carers. Nine thousand, seven hundred people have signed our petition opposing these plans, yet their voices are being brushed aside, and they are repeatedly told by your Government, and the health board, to simply wait for the consultation to finish. But the options on the table mean that significant reductions in in-patient care are already baked in and that that consultation only presents one option. We've been told that your Government can't do anything, but we know that the Welsh Government has mechanisms to intervene when it needs to, for example, with the fire and rescue services.
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So, what will your Government do in order to listen to the voices of people in a rural area like Powys and make sure that these proposals are stopped? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Prynhawn da, Weinidog, a diolch hefyd i Safa am y cwestiwn.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, Minister, and thank you to Safa for the question.
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You said in your response to Safa that trustworthy statistics and evidence is vital to the delivery of services, but that must also include listening to residents: 9,700 people in Powys have objected to the proposals ahead of them. But I also want to talk about a recent Healthcare Inspectorate Wales—and you've talked about that body—inspection of Gwaun Cae Gurwen Surgery. It found that 85 per cent of respondents rated their experience as 'poor', while 73 per cent did not feel listened to or involved in decisions about their healthcare—a very high proportion of patients for that practice, yet the inspection did not identify failings that fully reflected the level of dissatisfaction reported by patients. We know that Healthcare Inspectorate Wales can make recommendations and seek improvements, but there are questions about how much leverage sits behind those recommendations when services fail to improve. So, Minister, I really want to hear this answer—an answer, please: for more effective—
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Yes, well, I'm pre-empting it. [Laughter.] For more effective public sector decision making, who has the power to ensure that clear evidence of poor service actually results in action?
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Prynhawn da, Drefnydd. Can I ask for a statement, please, on radical reform of services for our care-experienced young people? Back in July 2023, we debated in the Senedd the Children, Young People and Education Committee's report on this subject. Of the committee's 12 radical recommendations, the then Government accepted just one, rejecting—amongst other things—making care experience a protected characteristic and placing corporate duties on a statutory level. In that debate the now Deputy First Minister shared my disappointment that the Government then said it wasn't sufficiently bold, brave or ambitious. So, given that situation, I'd be pleased to hear from Plaid Cymru exactly how they're going to incorporate these issues around radical reform. It hasn't been so far in your statement for government or in your manifesto, but you've had a busy time, so I'm hoping that there will be a focus now on ensuring that our care-experienced young people across Wales get the services that they deserve. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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I declare an interest. My husband's a child protection social worker. Five-year-old Logan Mwangi, two-year-old Lola James, 16-year-old Kaylea Titford, all three of them were here in Wales and had the attention of the local authorities, and all three sadly died. And the biggest single factor in the deaths of those children that was identified was lack of communication between the services. I had been a child protection social worker for 25 years before I came into politics, and I cannot tell you how difficult and challenging it is to be a child protection social worker. It is so hard to do a job where you are, if you're doing a good job, listening to the child and the young person, and you are looking at all of the risks, and you bear the risks. I'm grateful to Natasha for mentioning—and I can't see it in your statement, but maybe it is something I haven't read—child protection social workers, because they are the critical front line in all of the changes you seek. You are looking at a wholesale, or the potential of a wholesale, reorganisation of this service.
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You are looking at a wholesale child protection rearrangement of the service, but I would like you first to look at how we support those child protection social workers at the front line. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Devolution should never mean a transfer of responsibility without the means to discharge it, and yet, too often in Wales, we've been given the powers we have so far without the funds to use them, trying to meet our responsibilities with one hand tied behind our backs, and that erodes public confidence in devolution. I welcome this debate. It has shown me, actually, that there is a significant amount of cross-party support for the three points in the motion. Just to touch on them very quickly, the Wales reserve: if a Government does not need to spend money in one year, it should be able to save it for what is needed in the next year. That's exactly how we all do our own budgets at home. If we don't spend it, we can carry it over, and, therefore, that should be the same application to our budget here in Wales. Scotland does not face the same constraints. It has unlimited annual drawdowns from its own reserve. The need for flexibility, though, goes beyond the reserve. Last July, Members across this Senedd agreed that it makes little sense for a national Government to have less borrowing flexibility than a local council, as has been raised by Mike Hedges. We remain stuck, with an overall capital borrowing cap whose real value is eroded by inflation over the past decade. Secondly, the Crown Estate. Borrowing and revenue have to go hand in hand. Wales has a revenue stream in sight, and, at the moment, it is being collected elsewhere. The Crown Estate's Welsh assets were valued at £853 million in 2022-23, and 93 per cent of that is tied to offshore wind and marine energy. Of course, devolving that revenue would come with a reduction in the block grant—we do know that. But, just as in Scotland, the way that adjustment is calculated matters. If it is set transparently and reflects the growth of offshore wind in Wales, it could give us the much-needed means to invest in our own coastline and communities. On the Barnett formula, I welcome the motion's language of review, fairness and transparency. But we must, as has been said, be cautious, as the Institute for Fiscal Studies has noted. Reopening the formula could cost Wales as readily as it benefits. So, the credible route is not a leap in the dark; it is, as has been said, a rigorous, evidence-based process. At present, the Treasury acts as judge, jury and executioner in disputes. We've seen that HS2 is the clearest example, and the Oxford to Cambridge line as well. When the same decision goes against Wales twice and no-one outside the Treasury can overturn it, that is not an error, it is a flaw in the design. What we need is an independent fiscal commission, along the lines of Australia's Commonwealth Grants Commission. Finally, on rail, I welcome the commitment to £14 billion-worth of investment, and I support, of course, devolving rail infrastructure to Wales, as Scotland has. I have to refer us to the modicum of confusion that there was in the last Senedd over the £14 billion and the befuddlement and confusion in terms of the motions coming forward to us. But let's move on from that, as we should see, in terms of our railways. We need to see that rail devolution come to Wales, with the money attached to it, and we need to make sure that that affects the whole of Wales. To finish, I ask the Welsh Government to be bolder in what it asks for, and I ask the UK Government, in turn, to give us a fair hearing into a fair settlement. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Prynhawn da, Brif Weinidog. Almost across the Siambr we've seen a real support, haven't we, for live music and supporting our venues. I just really wanted to take a different kind of approach to it, which is about our youth clubs. Our youth clubs are real resources for young people to start in music. We've heard as well about the Ezra Collective, an award-winning English group—Femi Koleoso of the group put it simply, 'We met at a youth club'. Yet we've seen such cuts to our youth services. And I stand here with my tin hat on, because I recognise the role that my party played in the coalition in cutting services, so I'm taking full responsibility for that. But here in Wales, isn't it right, First Minister, that we need to find a way of supporting our youth clubs and making sure that, through that, our young people get that amazing opportunity to learn music and to be able to play it. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Prynhawn da, Drefnydd. Dwi eisiau cario ymlaen tipyn bach efo'r mater yna, os gwelwch chi'n dda.
Official English translation
Good afternoon, Trefnydd. I want to continue on that issue, please.
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I'd like to request a statement on the well-being outcomes for care leavers in Wales. Last month, the UK Department of Education published 'You really are on your own', a study of the early deaths of young people who were in care, and its findings are deeply concerning. In 2025 alone, 112 care leavers aged 18 to 24 died in England, an estimated death rate around three to four times that of their peers in the general population. One in five of those deaths occurred at age 18, right when support so often fails and falls away. The report must serve as a warning for us here in Wales. Care-experienced young people have consistently raised here many of the issues around isolation, cliff edges in support, and independence being treated as more important than well-being. So, may I ask, please, Trefnydd, what can we do here in Wales to make sure we've got the data on young people and make sure we've got the services in place to support them? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Prynhawn da, Weinidog. We're all going to use current examples, because that's exactly how we can relate the statement to what's going on in our current health boards. The statement does stress leadership, governance and openness as central to organisational success. Powys Teaching Health Board has none of those. It has lost trust from its residents—we've lost confidence in their leadership and governance. Nine thousand and three hundred people have signed a petition to say, 'Stop the closure of community beds in eight of our community hospitals across Powys'. They want to centralise them into the middle, so, if you live in Machynlleth, or live in Ystradgynlais, you have to travel. We've held six public meetings; 1,500 people have been to them. Last night, we held one in Knighton. Once again, people are saying they have absolutely no confidence in the board at Powys Teaching Health Board. We want the process stopped, we want the board to be sacked. Please don't say we need to wait for the consultation to happen—it will be too late. So, how does this statement, how does this review, help the people of Powys right now to stop what is going on? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
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Mae'n glir, onid ydy, fod yna gefnogaeth i'r siarter dros y Siambr, a dwi'n falch o ddweud, wrth gwrs, fod y Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol yma yng Nghymru yn ei gefnogi o hefyd. Gaf i jest gofyn: sut ydych chi am sicrhau bod yna weithlu arbenigol ar gyfer y siarter yma? Achos rydych chi wedi sôn am ddarparu gwasanaethau yn Gymraeg, yn ddwyieithog, a dwi'n siŵr ei fod o'n anodd trio recriwtio a chadw staff dros y gweithlu. Felly, a oes gennych chi gynllun i sicrhau bod staff yn y maes yma yn cael eu cadw yn y maes ac yn cael eu recriwtio a chael cefnogaeth hefyd? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Official English translation
It's clear, isn't it, that there is support for the charter across the Chamber, and I'm pleased to say, of course, that the Liberal Democrats here in Wales also support it. May I just ask: how will you ensure that there is a specialist workforce available to deliver this charter? Because you've mentioned providing services through the medium of Welsh and bilingually, and I'm sure it must be difficult to try and recruit and retain staff across the workforce. So, do you have a plan in place to ensure that there are staff available in this area and that they can be retained and recruited and receive the support that they need? Thank you.
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